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Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 9:48 pm
by Turkeytop
WWVB, the NIST 60 KHZ time signal, uised to synchronize clocks and other devices all over North America, is now operating at reduced power due to antenna damage sustained in a violent storm on April 7.
Notice: From approximately 0000 UTC on April 7, 2024 WWVB's south antenna has been disabled as a result of damage from wind gusts in excess of 90 MPH. WWVB ...
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Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 10:24 pm
by Honeyman
Fascinating.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 11:56 pm
by Turkeytop
I'm a stickler for punctuality. Accurate time keeping is important to me. Although it seems to be less important to the world at large. Hotel rooms don't even have a clock anymore. They say guests are embarrassed to have a clock in their room.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:58 am
by Honeyman
Turkeytop wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 11:56 pm
I'm a stickler for punctuality. Accurate time keeping is important to me. Although it seems to be less important to the world at large. Hotel rooms don't even have a clock anymore. They say guests are embarrassed to have a clock in their room.
Do you own a watch?

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 12:00 pm
by TC Talks
Turkeytop wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 11:56 pm
I'm a stickler for punctuality. Accurate time keeping is important to me. Although it seems to be less important to the world at large. Hotel rooms don't even have a clock anymore. They say guests are embarrassed to have a clock in their room.
Time is a construct TT, you are always right on time.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:22 pm
by Paul Richards
Honeyman wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 11:58 am
Turkeytop wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 11:56 pm
I'm a stickler for punctuality. Accurate time keeping is important to me. Although it seems to be less important to the world at large. Hotel rooms don't even have a clock anymore. They say guests are embarrassed to have a clock in their room.
Do you own a watch?
He doesn’t need one. He steals the alarm clocks from Hotel rooms when he visits the USA. That’s why he gets upset when he gets a room at the inn and there are no alarm clocks. Most hotel chains are on to Turkeytop. :rollin

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:34 pm
by ZenithCKLW
Sounds like you’ve been here before. 🙄

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 5:13 pm
by Ben Zonia
Other sources besides WWVB that are within a small fraction of a second.

WWV on 2.5, 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25 MHz.
CHU on 3.33, 7.85, and 14.67 MHz.
Clocks on your computer.
Clocks on OnStar and similar services, on car radios.
Cell phones.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 5:21 pm
by SolarMax
Turkeytop wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 11:56 pm
I'm a stickler for punctuality. Accurate time keeping is important to me. Although it seems to be less important to the world at large. Hotel rooms don't even have a clock anymore. They say guests are embarrassed to have a clock in their room.
Last few times I've done a hotel stay, there certainly has been a clock in the room. The damn display had the brightness of a thousand suns, even after I'd found the switch to "dim" it. Put a towel over the front so I could sleep. The outlet to simply unplug it was somewhere behind the nightstand or the bed, not reachable without rearranging the furniture.
What the room did NOT have, however, was a clock radio. Guests nowadays probably don't know what it is, what it's for or how to use it. There's so much RFI/EMI in those buildings that a radio is useless anyway.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 6:26 pm
by Turkeytop
SolarMax wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 5:21 pm


Last few times I've done a hotel stay, there certainly has been a clock in the room. The damn display had the brightness of a thousand suns, even after I'd found the switch to "dim" it. Put a towel over the front so I could sleep. The outlet to simply unplug it was somewhere behind the nightstand or the bed, not reachable without rearranging the furniture.
What the room did NOT have, however, was a clock radio. Guests nowadays probably don't know what it is, what it's for or how to use it. There's so much RFI/EMI in those buildings that a radio is useless anyway.
I have no need for a clock radio. But I do need a radio. I don't watch TV. Hotel radios are never any good so I've always carried a good radio with me wherever I travel. Now, I also carry a clock with me. When I wake up in a dark room, I like to look at the clock to see the time.
Ben Zonia wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 5:13 pm
Other sources besides WWVB that are within a small fraction of a second.

WWV on 2.5, 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25 MHz.
CHU on 3.33, 7.85, and 14.67 MHz.
Great idea. I never even thought of that. When I wake up in the night and want to know the time, all I need to do is turn on the lamp, fire up the short wave radio, listen for the correct time, then go back to sleep.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 7:43 pm
by TC Talks
There you go problem solved the Broadcast Engineer way.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 10:26 pm
by kager
ZenithCKLW wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 4:34 pm
Sounds like you’ve been here before. 🙄
:lol

Now what would give anyone that idea?

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:47 pm
by Ben Zonia
I mentioned three other methods besides time signals. Most people use their cell phones for alarm clocks in hotels. They can also use a wake up call. You could also bring a small alarm clock and or portable radio with an alarm feature. A small one can easily be packed.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 12:35 am
by Turkeytop
Ben Zonia wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 11:47 pm
I mentioned three other methods besides time signals. Most people use their cell phones for alarm clocks in hotels. They can also use a wake up call. You could also bring a small alarm clock and or portable radio with an alarm feature. A small one can easily be packed.
I don't need an alarm clock or a wake up call. But a clock is nice. I don't have a cell phone, but even if I had one, it seems like a lot of trouble fumbling around for it in the dark just to check the time.

Re: Your Clock May Not Be Accurate

Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 8:42 am
by Paul Richards
Turkeytop wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:35 am
Ben Zonia wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 11:47 pm
I mentioned three other methods besides time signals. Most people use their cell phones for alarm clocks in hotels. They can also use a wake up call. You could also bring a small alarm clock and or portable radio with an alarm feature. A small one can easily be packed.
I don't need an alarm clock or a wake up call. But a clock is nice. I don't have a cell phone, but even if I had one, it seems like a lot of trouble fumbling around for it in the dark just to check the time.
As you have said in an earlier post that you would fire up a shortwave radio to find out what time it was. Why not just look at your watch? You have to fumble around to find the time station on shortwave. Invest in an alarm clock and take it with you wherever you go, hell put a chain on it and hang it around you neck like that rapper dude from the 80’s Flavor Flav.