If I recall Gary Stevens had a role with Doubleday when WBFG became WLLZ in ‘80 as well.Colonel Flagg wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:14 pmThe 90's era WLLZ many of you opine for was already running on fumes. Wheels was at it's peak all through the 80's. Here's the guy who launched WLLZ in late fall, 1980
https://www.vbprofiles.com/people/john- ... 045400a020
After PD Jay Clark left, it was all downhill for WLLZ.
Where is Gary Palmer these days? Steve Striker, Dorian Pastor, Kerry Maul, and Bob Bauer are gone, sadly.
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106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
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Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
We now ive in a copy/ paste world.
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Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
Gary was president of the company, under Doubleday, based in New York.Steve Korvette wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:23 pmIf I recall Gary Stevens had a role with Doubleday when WBFG became WLLZ in ‘80 as well.Colonel Flagg wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:14 pmThe 90's era WLLZ many of you opine for was already running on fumes. Wheels was at it's peak all through the 80's. Here's the guy who launched WLLZ in late fall, 1980
https://www.vbprofiles.com/people/john- ... 045400a020
After PD Jay Clark left, it was all downhill for WLLZ.
Where is Gary Palmer these days? Steve Striker, Dorian Pastor, Kerry Maul, and Bob Bauer are gone, sadly.
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Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
The funny thing is - the Real WLLZ lasted nowhere nearly as long as WCSX or 89X, two stations that are still around and have more-or-less kept the same format since their respective launches.
And we all know WRIF's life span is three times the length of the original WLLZ - and counting.
Wheels was a great station in its prime, but its prime wasn't terribly lengthy. Its tenure as a successful station is shorter, in some cases far shorter, than that of Mix 92.3, WCSX, Channel 955, WDVD, WJLB, WYCD, WNIC (I won't hold their "Fresh" phase against them), WRIF, WOMC, the former Q95-5 and the former W4 Country. Its tenure as a succesful station was comparable to that of its replacement, V98.7.
Wheels lost relevance quickly after WCSX had been around for a couple years.
And we all know WRIF's life span is three times the length of the original WLLZ - and counting.
Wheels was a great station in its prime, but its prime wasn't terribly lengthy. Its tenure as a successful station is shorter, in some cases far shorter, than that of Mix 92.3, WCSX, Channel 955, WDVD, WJLB, WYCD, WNIC (I won't hold their "Fresh" phase against them), WRIF, WOMC, the former Q95-5 and the former W4 Country. Its tenure as a succesful station was comparable to that of its replacement, V98.7.
Wheels lost relevance quickly after WCSX had been around for a couple years.
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Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
WLLZ 106.7 has been on the air for a little more than 48 hours and we including myself are already putting it in it’s grave, Maybe we all should see where it will be in 48 days instead of 48 hours, What do you think?
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I am by no means writing off the new station yet.
I just am underwhelmed by what I've heard so far. A poorly structured corporate playlist does not impress me at all.
Once excitement over resurrection of the Wheels name wears off, people will start paying attention to 106.7's programming. They will leave if the music becomes neglected.
Hopefully 106.7 will work as hard as 105.1 to find the right mix of music, morning content, and image.
I just am underwhelmed by what I've heard so far. A poorly structured corporate playlist does not impress me at all.
Once excitement over resurrection of the Wheels name wears off, people will start paying attention to 106.7's programming. They will leave if the music becomes neglected.
Hopefully 106.7 will work as hard as 105.1 to find the right mix of music, morning content, and image.
Paul Woods reminds me a bit of the Swedish Chef from the Muppets when he speaks!
Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
MW, I understand where you’re coming from, Even myself I hear songs on the station and say why are they playing that tune, I think we all have our own ideas as to how we want the station to sound, But You have different taste in music than myself and the next person and so on. So if we give it a while it might not be a bad station only time will tell.
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Podell isn't the PD. Casey, who was PD of ALT is still Program Director and tracking nights.
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I think you're painting with a broad brush here, MW. WCSX arrived in 1987. WLLZ was still a contender for another 6 years or thereabouts. Jay Clark arrived at Wheels with some new and different ideas, one being the "Rock & Sports" concept. We were probably a bit before our time on that one. At one point, there were actually 2 different consultants on the payroll. One was Jeff Pollack. I can't recall the other one. I would peg the downward spiral of Wheels to be sometime in 1993, after Jay left. I do recall that Pollack drastically "trimmed all the fat" out of the music library. I think Gary Palmer may have been PD at that point. It's a shame Bob Bauer is no longer with us. He would have many stories.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:36 pmThe funny thing is - the Real WLLZ lasted nowhere nearly as long as WCSX or 89X, two stations that are still around and have more-or-less kept the same format since their respective launches.
And we all know WRIF's life span is three times the length of the original WLLZ - and counting.
Wheels was a great station in its prime, but its prime wasn't terribly lengthy. Its tenure as a successful station is shorter, in some cases far shorter, than that of Mix 92.3, WCSX, Channel 955, WDVD, WJLB, WYCD, WNIC (I won't hold their "Fresh" phase against them), WRIF, WOMC, the former Q95-5 and the former W4 Country. Its tenure as a succesful station was comparable to that of its replacement, V98.7.
Wheels lost relevance quickly after WCSX had been around for a couple years.
WCSX, and to a lesser extent WRIF, had more stable ownership than WLLZ, which changed hands several times. We almost lost WRIF when Silver Star owned it for a minute, but that's a story for another time.
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Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
I agree..........we have been wanting another rocker to take the Detroit's wheelz moniker for yrs now lets stop bitching, everyone has valid points to post but were not going to get that definitive station that rocks your ass off on commercial radio, that kind of station unfortuately costs in a subscription.Steve Korvette wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:53 pmWLLZ 106.7 has been on the air for a little more than 48 hours and we including myself are already putting it in it’s grave, Maybe we all should see where it will be in 48 days instead of 48 hours, What do you think?
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Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
Personally, I would have The New Wheels 106.7 be an Active Rocker simular To The Riff and 89 X, With very little If any Classic Rock, If the Original Wheels were here today 40 years after its birth I would bet that’s what Wheels would be doing. Just my opinion.
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Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
Too bad. That needs to change. Casey has accomplished NOTHING in this market. He also is in charge of the lowest rated full market FM station in Grand Rapids and has led it to all-time record low ratings.Podell isn't the PD. Casey, who was PD of ALT is still Program Director and tracking nights.
I noticed the online music log for Fake Wheels magically stopped working within 24 hours of me calling them out for using a generic playlist cooked up by corporate. Coincidence?
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Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
No, Queen really does suck. What do you think fostered the rise of the punks? Queen was pretty solid until '77 or so, and then became a bloated pantomime of itself.stopnswop2 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:32 pmOh, btw, Queen does not "suck"
Your opinion on the band does not affect their legacy. Sorry.
Everyone has their own taste in music.
Get over it. Queen is classic rock.
The fantastic timbre' of Farrokh Bulsara's voice or Brian May's rather unique guitar, do not make up for weak song writing or bombastic production and arrangements.
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Queen was an innovative band musically and they seemed to have a wide range of influences. Between "Bohemian Rhapsody" making a comeback on "Waynes World" and "We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions" being sports arena anthems, they managed to get their music heard and appreciated by younger generations. However, they have been played to death, and listeners have grown tired of their songs. Also, Freddie Mercurys sexuality is no longer taboo in this generation, so he is now more openly celebrated as an icon.....which means a resurgence of his music that will probably also continue.FET-500 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:48 amNo, Queen really does suck. What do you think fostered the rise of the punks? Queen was pretty solid until '77 or so, and then became a bloated pantomime of itself.stopnswop2 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:32 pmOh, btw, Queen does not "suck"
Your opinion on the band does not affect their legacy. Sorry.
Everyone has their own taste in music.
Get over it. Queen is classic rock.
The fantastic timbre' of Farrokh Bulsara's voice or Brian May's rather unique guitar, do not make up for weak song writing or bombastic production and arrangements.
Re: 106.7 Detroit is identical to 105.7 Columbus
It’s indeed a preference thing, Personally I hated Queen, Styx, Kiss, and even Rush, I could never stand playing their records on the radio back then and to this day HATE Them, But then again I love Coca-Cola but hate Pepsi.FET-500 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:48 amNo, Queen really does suck. What do you think fostered the rise of the punks? Queen was pretty solid until '77 or so, and then became a bloated pantomime of itself.stopnswop2 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:32 pmOh, btw, Queen does not "suck"
Your opinion on the band does not affect their legacy. Sorry.
Everyone has their own taste in music.
Get over it. Queen is classic rock.
The fantastic timbre' of Farrokh Bulsara's voice or Brian May's rather unique guitar, do not make up for weak song writing or bombastic production and arrangements.