Michael Flynn Resigns

[Deleted User 8570]

Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn

The abrupt resignation Monday evening of White House national security adviser Michael Flynn is the culmination of a secret, months-long campaign by former Obama administration confidantes to handicap President Donald Trump's national security apparatus and preserve the nuclear deal with Iran, according to multiple sources in and out of the White House

As I suspected.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... ust-flynn/

A biased source.... how wonderful...

[audiophile]

You have to wonder how it came to the media though...conspiracy theories aside.

[Motown322]

So are internal leaks good or bad now? I can't keep up.

[TC Shuts Up]

Democrat holdovers in the CIA brought down Flynn. All stories coming out of MSM are suspect.

http://theweek.com/articles/680068/amer ... y-worrying

[screen glare]

Bryce - You, Sir - or Madame - are side-splittingly hilarious. Even Donald Trump and his Dark Side or Disney Land close white house associates understand the full weight of Flynn's flim flam flip flop. It's the fact that it very well could implicate President Trump as having full knowledge of Flynn's foreign faux pas. Even to the extent of telling him to do it and what words to say! In other words, Bryce it could end up being Trump's Watergate.

Get ready for at least a year or more of congressional investigations. We'll see if they kead directly to Trump.

Anyway, Bryce, that's why, unlike you, even the white house inner circle of amatures gets it. Maybe Ivanka's green reed of a husband or Bannon can enlighten you. I doubt their sentences begin with "...Well I don't see why..."

[Lester The Nightfly]

Democrat holdovers in the CIA brought down Flynn. All stories coming out of MSM are suspect.

Odd. One would think a world class businessman would have the organizational skills to swiftly execute personnel changes and install his own team. Particularity when he has the backing of Congress. Do you have any other scapegoats and strawmen to explain why your guy doesn't seem to be able to marshal a one-car parade?

[Bryce]

Yeah. We all know how easy it is to fire a government employee. Snort...

What is REALLY laughable here is the head leftist, Up-Chuck Shummer. Lets see, Fast and Furious gun running, IRS scandal, Benghazi, and the unauthorized e-mail server. NOW he thinks there should be a independent prosecutor appointed to investigate Flynn and the T Rump administration. Even though there is absolutely NO proof that anything untoward was discussed.

From the N.Y. Times 02/14/17:

The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

Well, old Up-Chuck is right in a certain regard. There should be an independent prosecutor appointed to investigate who leaked classified phone conversations to the press and who coordinated the effort to take down a member of the T Rump administration. Things like this happen in a Banana Republic. No one seems concerned.

[Lester The Nightfly]

Yeah. We all know how easy it is to fire a government employee. Snort...

So what you're implying is that government employees are Democrats or instigators against the President? Just some? Which ones? Perhaps extreme vetting and a loyalty test is in order?

[craig11152]

If he's negotiating with the Russians to reduce sanctions on them once Trump takes office but he is doing so in an unofficial capacity (not yet NSA) then he is still a private citizen and is interfering in the relations between the USA and another government, something that the law expressly forbids... this isn't rocket science... it's quite simple actually...

I don't know what your credentials are but here is what a University of Texas law professor and CNN contributor says...

"The Logan Act "is a relic of a bygone era," said Steve Vladeck, a CNN contributor and law professor at University of Texas School of Law.
"It gets trotted out every time there's a political disagreement when someone who is not the president touches on foreign policy," Vladeck said. "It's the old chestnut that everyone quotes and no one understands."
The Logan Act likely won't be used here, and it may not even be enforceable at all anymore, Vladeck said.
The law essentially criminalizes speech, he said, and the Supreme Court looks very skeptically at laws that may infringe upon that right.
In addition, the law's mention of a person acting "without authority of the United States" could be an escape hatch, Vladeck has written.
Flynn wasn't simply a private citizen; he was an adviser to the President-elect and soon would be given diplomatic powers. Legally speaking, his role may have granted him the "authority" to talk sanctions with Kislyak, Vladeck's interpretation suggests.

The fact that we can each "Google that shit up" doesn't actually make us experts.

[Deleted User 8570]

If he's negotiating with the Russians to reduce sanctions on them once Trump takes office but he is doing so in an unofficial capacity (not yet NSA) then he is still a private citizen and is interfering in the relations between the USA and another government, something that the law expressly forbids... this isn't rocket science... it's quite simple actually...

I don't know what your credentials are but here is what a University of Texas law professor and CNN contributor says...

"The Logan Act "is a relic of a bygone era," said Steve Vladeck, a CNN contributor and law professor at University of Texas School of Law.
"It gets trotted out every time there's a political disagreement when someone who is not the president touches on foreign policy," Vladeck said. "It's the old chestnut that everyone quotes and no one understands."
The Logan Act likely won't be used here, and it may not even be enforceable at all anymore, Vladeck said.
The law essentially criminalizes speech, he said, and the Supreme Court looks very skeptically at laws that may infringe upon that right.
In addition, the law's mention of a person acting "without authority of the United States" could be an escape hatch, Vladeck has written.
Flynn wasn't simply a private citizen; he was an adviser to the President-elect and soon would be given diplomatic powers. Legally speaking, his role may have granted him the "authority" to talk sanctions with Kislyak, Vladeck's interpretation suggests.

The fact that we can each "Google that shit up" doesn't actually make us experts.

He's got just as much an opinion as I do... I don't get your point and I disagree with his...

[Deleted User 8570]

Yeah. We all know how easy it is to fire a government employee. Snort...

What is REALLY laughable here is the head leftist, Up-Chuck Shummer. Lets see, Fast and Furious gun running, IRS scandal, Benghazi, and the unauthorized e-mail server. NOW he thinks there should be a independent prosecutor appointed to investigate Flynn and the T Rump administration. Even though there is absolutely NO proof that anything untoward was discussed.

From the N.Y. Times 02/14/17:

The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

Well, old Up-Chuck is right in a certain regard. There should be an independent prosecutor appointed to investigate who leaked classified phone conversations to the press and who coordinated the effort to take down a member of the T Rump administration. Things like this happen in a Banana Republic. No one seems concerned.

And the Republicans don't think there should be anything now that the shoe is on the other foot... had this been Obama impeachment proceedings would have begun post haste... it's laughable to try to read anything into what you're trying to spout off on... namely "what did they do that we as the party out of the White House should investigate roulette"...

[Bryce]

Yeah. We all know how easy it is to fire a government employee. Snort...

So what you're implying is that government employees are Democrats or instigators against the President? Just some? Which ones? Perhaps extreme vetting and a loyalty test is in order?

Well, yeah. Pretty much anyone hired for any type.of management position during the past eight years would be. Lois Lehrner ring a bell?

[Bryce]

And the Republicans don't think there should be anything now that the shoe is on the other foot... had this been Obama impeachment proceedings would have begun post haste... it's laughable to try to read anything into what you're trying to spout off on... namely "what did they do that we as the party out of the White House should investigate roulette"...

Last I checked, Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, Lyndsey Graham and Roy Blunt are all Republicans. Each has called for a Senate investigation.

Stifle Edith.

[Lester The Nightfly]

Yeah. We all know how easy it is to fire a government employee. Snort...

So what you're implying is that government employees are Democrats or instigators against the President? Just some? Which ones? Perhaps extreme vetting and a loyalty test is in order?

Well, yeah. Pretty much anyone hired for any type.of management position during the past eight years would be. Lois Lehrner ring a bell?

So you're citing an appointed position(s). Then let's get back to why hasn't a skilled businessman like Trump cleared out the old team and brought in his own folks?

[Deleted User 8570]

Yeah. We all know how easy it is to fire a government employee. Snort...

So what you're implying is that government employees are Democrats or instigators against the President? Just some? Which ones? Perhaps extreme vetting and a loyalty test is in order?

Well, yeah. Pretty much anyone hired for any type.of management position during the past eight years would be. Lois Lehrner ring a bell?

So you're citing an appointed position(s). Then let's get back to why hasn't a skilled businessman like Trump cleared out the old team and brought in his own folks?

Because he's not at all skilled... he's a con man...