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Are You Comfortable With Massive Wholesale Voter Fraud?

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Are You Comfortable With Massive Wholesale Voter Fraud?

Post by TC Shuts Up » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:40 pm

Just asking you. Are you comfortable with massive wholesale voter fraud to defeat President Donald Trump? Yes or No and Why?


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Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:06 pm

There wasn't any fraud, Petoskey.
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Post by Rate This » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:10 pm

TC Shuts Up wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:40 pm
Just asking you. Are you comfortable with massive wholesale voter fraud to defeat President Donald Trump? Yes or No and Why?
Nobody is comfortable with fraud. Fortunately there is no fraud. It’s just a close race. This outcome where he looked ahead until he wasn’t was foreseen awhile ago in some places.

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Post by bmw » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:36 pm

At the end of the day, I think Biden's win (assuming he wins - I'd put him at 90% now) was legitimate. There was no doubt voter fraud at various locations, but it looks like his leads will be big enough in the lynchpin states that even absent any actual fraud, he probably would still have won the same states. The bigger problem I have is the complete lack of national standards for casting and counting votes. We could endlessly debate all the individual details, but it certainly could be argued that some of the rules this year favored Biden in certain key states.

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Post by Rate This » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:39 pm

bmw wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:36 pm
At the end of the day, I think Biden's win (assuming he wins - I'd put him at 90% now) was legitimate. There was no doubt voter fraud at various locations, but it looks like his leads will be big enough in the lynchpin states that even absent any actual fraud, he probably would still have won the same states. The bigger problem I have is the complete lack of national standards for casting and counting votes. We could endlessly debate all the individual details, but it certainly could be argued that some of the rules this year favored Biden in certain key states.
That’s the whole states rights thing. We don’t do national elections by design. I agree we should but we also should use popular vote and avoid this mess every single time. You can’t decentralize the administration of the elections and keep centralized rules.

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Post by bmw » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:41 pm

I think it could be de-centralized while each state still uses basically the same rules.

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Post by Rate This » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:51 pm

bmw wrote:
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I think it could be de-centralized while each state still uses basically the same rules.
But again... states rights. See how much it sucks to have that argument used against you now?

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Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:59 pm

Hats off to bmw for not being sour grapes. And truly, this isn't over yet.
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Post by Honeyman » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:05 pm

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Hats off to bmw for not being sour grapes. And truly, this isn't over yet.
I agree. Been a level-headed, fair, voice of reason.
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Post by bmw » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:07 pm

I'd be a lot more sour grapes if the Senate had gone to the Dems. The Republicans taking over is very underrated at the moment.

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Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:43 pm

Well, it could still be 51-49. Peters is leading John James at the moment by a measly 4300 votes.
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Post by audiophile » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:44 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
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Hats off to bmw for not being sour grapes. And truly, this isn't over yet.
Speaking of sour grapes, I said I would apologize to you if was wrong late night, but I wasn't and I able to verify my quote.
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Post by Rate This » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:06 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:43 pm
Well, it could still be 51-49. Peters is leading John James at the moment by a measly 4300 votes.
But it’s where the remainder comes from. There isn’t a basket of James votes somewhere to count anymore.

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Re: Are You Comfortable With Massive Wholesale Voter Fraud?

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:15 pm

audiophile wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:44 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:59 pm
Hats off to bmw for not being sour grapes. And truly, this isn't over yet.
Speaking of sour grapes, I said I would apologize to you if was wrong late night, but I wasn't and I able to verify my quote.
You embraced his autocratic rant yesterday. I am still pissed about it.

And looks like Peters has taken a 10,000 vote.lead over James. Looks like he will hold on to the seat.
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Post by TC Shuts Up » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:49 pm

Not one of you has given a Yes or No answer. "C'mon Man". They found hundreds of thousands of votes. All of them were for Biden. They have video of vehicles bringing in ballots. This is wholesale massive voter fraud. And not one has said they were not OK with this. That bothers me.
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