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Govermnent regs help big business...

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Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by audiophile » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:47 am

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/ ... iness.html

I've said this for a while: It comes under the guise of 'health and safety', but it's really big business in disguise.
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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by NS8401 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:16 am

audiophile wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:47 am
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/ ... iness.html

I've said this for a while: It comes under the guise of 'health and safety', but it's really big business in disguise.
In a capitalist system who wins? The bigger fish. How? By any means necessary and we mean any.

There’s nothing shocking about this... it’s a logical extension of our system.

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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by Plate Cap » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:42 am

Hmmm....could be....but I'm more inclined to think it is stupid politicians trying to do the "right" thing (i.e. tell us all what is bad for us) and then getting tripped up in execution. Bad ideas get piled on top of more bad ideas.

Frankly, I couldn't care less if people too stupid to stop smoking end up dying. The problem is the strain on the health and public safety system because of the public and not so public costs of attending to them. It's a very tangible number. It affects available hospital beds, ambulance costs, and virtually every corner of medicine.

It's very 'trendy' to attack 'big business'. We all dream of grabbing the brass ring and making it big, but of recent vilify anyone who has done so. We made Wal-Mart and Amazon what they are, yet we hate them for being what they are. "Power to the People" as we wave our torches from the street......filled with kerosene we bought at the Wal-Mart gas station because it's a nickel cheaper a gallon, wearing a shirt bought online because it was a dollar cheaper than at the brick and mortar store in town.

Its vogue to decry capitalism and the American way of life in these cute little salons online, all the while enjoying all the benefits of 240 years of the system. Some of us want to be Che Guevara, Mao Zedong or Karl Marx online, knocking our system and claiming something else is better, all the while sipping latte, having 99.9999% reliable AC power, paved roads, communicating through broadband internet, enjoying a paid retirement wintering in Florida, and enjoying the running water and flush toilets 2/3 of the world does not have due to their not having a decent economic system. That "something else" that is, according to some, better, does not seem to have any long term running successful examples, now does it? Sorry....I'll take capitalism until someone shows me another system that works this good this long.

The gist of this article is that large stores can fight such items and little ones can't, so it's some secret insidious plot by 'big business'. 'Big Business' would rather spend that money wasted on fighting that law on a nicer boardroom.
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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by chromacolor2 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:43 am

Plate Cap wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:42 am
Hmmm....could be....but I'm more inclined to think it is stupid politicians trying to do the "right" thing (i.e. tell us all what is bad for us) and then getting tripped up in execution. Bad ideas get piled on top of more bad ideas.

Frankly, I couldn't care less if people too stupid to stop smoking end up dying. The problem is the strain on the health and public safety system because of the public and not so public costs of attending to them. It's a very tangible number. It affects available hospital beds, ambulance costs, and virtually every corner of medicine.

It's very 'trendy' to attack 'big business'. We all dream of grabbing the brass ring and making it big, but of recent vilify anyone who has done so. We made Wal-Mart and Amazon what they are, yet we hate them for being what they are. "Power to the People" as we wave our torches from the street......filled with kerosene we bought at the Wal-Mart gas station because it's a nickel cheaper a gallon, wearing a shirt bought online because it was a dollar cheaper than at the brick and mortar store in town.

Its vogue to decry capitalism and the American way of life in these cute little salons online, all the while enjoying all the benefits of 240 years of the system. Some of us want to be Che Guevara, Mao Zedong or Karl Marx online, knocking our system and claiming something else is better, all the while sipping latte, having 99.9999% reliable AC power, paved roads, communicating through broadband internet, enjoying a paid retirement wintering in Florida, and enjoying the running water and flush toilets 2/3 of the world does not have due to their not having a decent economic system. That "something else" that is, according to some, better, does not seem to have any long term running successful examples, now does it? Sorry....I'll take capitalism until someone shows me another system that works this good this long.

The gist of this article is that large stores can fight such items and little ones can't, so it's some secret insidious plot by 'big business'. 'Big Business' would rather spend that money wasted on fighting that law on a nicer boardroom.
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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by Bryce » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:23 pm

Plate Cap wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:42 am
Hmmm....could be....but I'm more inclined to think it is stupid politicians trying to do the "right" thing (i.e. tell us all what is bad for us) and then getting tripped up in execution. Bad ideas get piled on top of more bad ideas.

Frankly, I couldn't care less if people too stupid to stop smoking end up dying. The problem is the strain on the health and public safety system because of the public and not so public costs of attending to them. It's a very tangible number. It affects available hospital beds, ambulance costs, and virtually every corner of medicine.

It's very 'trendy' to attack 'big business'. We all dream of grabbing the brass ring and making it big, but of recent vilify anyone who has done so. We made Wal-Mart and Amazon what they are, yet we hate them for being what they are. "Power to the People" as we wave our torches from the street......filled with kerosene we bought at the Wal-Mart gas station because it's a nickel cheaper a gallon, wearing a shirt bought online because it was a dollar cheaper than at the brick and mortar store in town.

Its vogue to decry capitalism and the American way of life in these cute little salons online, all the while enjoying all the benefits of 240 years of the system. Some of us want to be Che Guevara, Mao Zedong or Karl Marx online, knocking our system and claiming something else is better, all the while sipping latte, having 99.9999% reliable AC power, paved roads, communicating through broadband internet, enjoying a paid retirement wintering in Florida, and enjoying the running water and flush toilets 2/3 of the world does not have due to their not having a decent economic system. That "something else" that is, according to some, better, does not seem to have any long term running successful examples, now does it? Sorry....I'll take capitalism until someone shows me another system that works this good this long.

The gist of this article is that large stores can fight such items and little ones can't, so it's some secret insidious plot by 'big business'. 'Big Business' would rather spend that money wasted on fighting that law on a nicer boardroom.
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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by NS8401 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:04 pm

chromacolor2 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:43 am
Plate Cap wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:42 am
Hmmm....could be....but I'm more inclined to think it is stupid politicians trying to do the "right" thing (i.e. tell us all what is bad for us) and then getting tripped up in execution. Bad ideas get piled on top of more bad ideas.

Frankly, I couldn't care less if people too stupid to stop smoking end up dying. The problem is the strain on the health and public safety system because of the public and not so public costs of attending to them. It's a very tangible number. It affects available hospital beds, ambulance costs, and virtually every corner of medicine.

It's very 'trendy' to attack 'big business'. We all dream of grabbing the brass ring and making it big, but of recent vilify anyone who has done so. We made Wal-Mart and Amazon what they are, yet we hate them for being what they are. "Power to the People" as we wave our torches from the street......filled with kerosene we bought at the Wal-Mart gas station because it's a nickel cheaper a gallon, wearing a shirt bought online because it was a dollar cheaper than at the brick and mortar store in town.

Its vogue to decry capitalism and the American way of life in these cute little salons online, all the while enjoying all the benefits of 240 years of the system. Some of us want to be Che Guevara, Mao Zedong or Karl Marx online, knocking our system and claiming something else is better, all the while sipping latte, having 99.9999% reliable AC power, paved roads, communicating through broadband internet, enjoying a paid retirement wintering in Florida, and enjoying the running water and flush toilets 2/3 of the world does not have due to their not having a decent economic system. That "something else" that is, according to some, better, does not seem to have any long term running successful examples, now does it? Sorry....I'll take capitalism until someone shows me another system that works this good this long.

The gist of this article is that large stores can fight such items and little ones can't, so it's some secret insidious plot by 'big business'. 'Big Business' would rather spend that money wasted on fighting that law on a nicer boardroom.
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Too bad the slow clap was for you.... I don’t see anything unreasonable in Plate Caps post... neither of you or Bryce seem willing to refute directly a word of it... fascinating...

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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by chromacolor2 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:36 am

NS8401 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:04 pm

Too bad the slow clap was for you.... I don’t see anything unreasonable in Plate Caps post... neither of you or Bryce seem willing to refute directly a word of it... fascinating...
What the hell is that supposed to even mean? I have a feeling you don't understand the phrase. Let me make it easier:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlowClap


After bearing witness to a heartfelt speech or courageous performance, one person in the audience gradually rises to their feet and starts putting their hands together for the display. The person momentarily appears alone with his decision, until another person also rises to start clapping. Three more audience members follow suit. Then twelve more, then fifty, then a hundred, then a thousand. Before you know it, everyone in the audience is on their feet, clapping and cheering.

I could add more to it, but plate cap's reply would be hard to top.
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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by chromacolor2 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:46 am

Great comment from the story, which is not about big business, but big government.


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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by NS8401 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:18 am

chromacolor2 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:36 am
NS8401 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:04 pm

Too bad the slow clap was for you.... I don’t see anything unreasonable in Plate Caps post... neither of you or Bryce seem willing to refute directly a word of it... fascinating...
What the hell is that supposed to even mean? I have a feeling you don't understand the phrase. Let me make it easier:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlowClap


After bearing witness to a heartfelt speech or courageous performance, one person in the audience gradually rises to their feet and starts putting their hands together for the display. The person momentarily appears alone with his decision, until another person also rises to start clapping. Three more audience members follow suit. Then twelve more, then fifty, then a hundred, then a thousand. Before you know it, everyone in the audience is on their feet, clapping and cheering.

I could add more to it, but plate cap's reply would be hard to top.
Oh that.... wrong meaning of slow... I overthought that one, you win. I’d still like to know what Bryce objected to?

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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by chromacolor2 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:27 am

NS8401 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:18 am
chromacolor2 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:36 am
NS8401 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:04 pm

Too bad the slow clap was for you.... I don’t see anything unreasonable in Plate Caps post... neither of you or Bryce seem willing to refute directly a word of it... fascinating...
What the hell is that supposed to even mean? I have a feeling you don't understand the phrase. Let me make it easier:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlowClap


After bearing witness to a heartfelt speech or courageous performance, one person in the audience gradually rises to their feet and starts putting their hands together for the display. The person momentarily appears alone with his decision, until another person also rises to start clapping. Three more audience members follow suit. Then twelve more, then fifty, then a hundred, then a thousand. Before you know it, everyone in the audience is on their feet, clapping and cheering.

I could add more to it, but plate cap's reply would be hard to top.
Oh that.... wrong meaning of slow... I overthought that one, you win. I’d still like to know what Bryce objected to?

I'm not pretending to speak for others, but I don't think Bryce was intending sarcasm, I think he was cheering Plate Cap to run for office after a well-written defense of capitalism.

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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by Bryce » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:12 am

chromacolor2 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:27 am
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:18 am
chromacolor2 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:36 am
NS8401 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:04 pm

Too bad the slow clap was for you.... I don’t see anything unreasonable in Plate Caps post... neither of you or Bryce seem willing to refute directly a word of it... fascinating...
What the hell is that supposed to even mean? I have a feeling you don't understand the phrase. Let me make it easier:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlowClap


After bearing witness to a heartfelt speech or courageous performance, one person in the audience gradually rises to their feet and starts putting their hands together for the display. The person momentarily appears alone with his decision, until another person also rises to start clapping. Three more audience members follow suit. Then twelve more, then fifty, then a hundred, then a thousand. Before you know it, everyone in the audience is on their feet, clapping and cheering.

I could add more to it, but plate cap's reply would be hard to top.
Oh that.... wrong meaning of slow... I overthought that one, you win. I’d still like to know what Bryce objected to?

I'm not pretending to speak for others, but I don't think Bryce was intending sarcasm, I think he was cheering Plate Cap to run for office after a well-written defense of capitalism.
BINGO! We have a winner.
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Re: Govermnent regs help big business...

Post by NS8401 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:08 am

Bryce wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:12 am
chromacolor2 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:27 am
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:18 am
chromacolor2 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:36 am
NS8401 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:04 pm

Too bad the slow clap was for you.... I don’t see anything unreasonable in Plate Caps post... neither of you or Bryce seem willing to refute directly a word of it... fascinating...
What the hell is that supposed to even mean? I have a feeling you don't understand the phrase. Let me make it easier:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlowClap


After bearing witness to a heartfelt speech or courageous performance, one person in the audience gradually rises to their feet and starts putting their hands together for the display. The person momentarily appears alone with his decision, until another person also rises to start clapping. Three more audience members follow suit. Then twelve more, then fifty, then a hundred, then a thousand. Before you know it, everyone in the audience is on their feet, clapping and cheering.

I could add more to it, but plate cap's reply would be hard to top.
Oh that.... wrong meaning of slow... I overthought that one, you win. I’d still like to know what Bryce objected to?

I'm not pretending to speak for others, but I don't think Bryce was intending sarcasm, I think he was cheering Plate Cap to run for office after a well-written defense of capitalism.
BINGO! We have a winner.
I’d vote yes...

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