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More pigs escaping from the pen

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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by FET-500 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:39 am

FET-500 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:38 am
NS8401 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:00 am
FET-500 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:10 am
NS8401 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:56 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:25 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:14 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:48 pm
stopnswop2 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:48 pm
I was not being sarcastic, nor was I basing it on any factual evidence.
I'm just saying, the justice system is flawed and I don't doubt a large majority of people in prison are actally innocent.
Or like NS said, in for bullshit reasons like marijuana, not paying child support, etc.
Lumping non-payment of support in with weedheads? What kind of relativism is this?
I’d rather have a cop solving a rape murder or robbery case than arresting somebody for not paying their baby momma... it’s not relativism... it’s prioritization...
No, it is relativism and "baby momma" is a racist pejorative. Well played...
It is only a racist pejorative if you want it to be... I used it to describe a situation anyone of any race or ethnicity could be in. That’s all in your head and not mine. You lose.


Great, now you're employing relativism to rationalize your racist post.
No.. you are putting ideas in my mouth in order to score a couple cheap points. Nobody wants that kind of gutter style discussion. You lose.
Put words into your mouth? I didn't type any of that. I don't control your keyboard, that comes later.



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:21 am

FET-500 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:39 am
FET-500 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:38 am
NS8401 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:00 am
FET-500 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:10 am
NS8401 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:56 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:25 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:14 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:48 pm
stopnswop2 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:48 pm
I was not being sarcastic, nor was I basing it on any factual evidence.
I'm just saying, the justice system is flawed and I don't doubt a large majority of people in prison are actally innocent.
Or like NS said, in for bullshit reasons like marijuana, not paying child support, etc.
Lumping non-payment of support in with weedheads? What kind of relativism is this?
I’d rather have a cop solving a rape murder or robbery case than arresting somebody for not paying their baby momma... it’s not relativism... it’s prioritization...
No, it is relativism and "baby momma" is a racist pejorative. Well played...
It is only a racist pejorative if you want it to be... I used it to describe a situation anyone of any race or ethnicity could be in. That’s all in your head and not mine. You lose.


Great, now you're employing relativism to rationalize your racist post.
No.. you are putting ideas in my mouth in order to score a couple cheap points. Nobody wants that kind of gutter style discussion. You lose.
Put words into your mouth? I didn't type any of that. I don't control your keyboard, that comes later.
I said ideas not words.. I wasn’t thinking of any particular race or ethnicity... you simply assumed I was and ran with it... that’s pretty damn sad...



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:22 am

FET-500 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:36 am
NS8401 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:58 am
FET-500 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:21 am
lovinlife101 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:43 pm
ZenithCKLW wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:35 pm
I drive 75 in a 70 all the time, maybe even 80. What's the difference? (I'm not being facetious, just curious why I'm not thrown in jail yet those people caught with weed are, and citing "they broke the law".) They both seem like bullshit reasons to be thrown in jail, yet one has a different result than the other.
Speed limits are set artificially low
Is logical fallacy your stock in trade?
They set them lower than necessary in many places as a way to increase traffic fine revenue. This has been demonstrated.
Cherry picking data is yet another logical fallacy. Well played. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking
I didn’t cherry pick anything... I simply drove through such areas...



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by stopnswop2 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm

I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...


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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by FET-500 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am

stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:06 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false
So the actual intent of the speaker means nothing? Straw man ad infinitum. Well played.



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by FET-500 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm

NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:06 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false
So the actual intent of the speaker means nothing? Straw man ad infinitum. Well played.
Are you stating that you are unable to make your point in clear language? It appears that this is your concession.



Deleted User 8570

Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:06 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false
So the actual intent of the speaker means nothing? Straw man ad infinitum. Well played.
Are you stating that you are unable to make your point in clear language? It appears that this is your concession.
No I’m saying that you are making a straw man argument by ignoring what I meant and applying your own false meaning to it... you are the only one referencing a specific race. This is a reflection on you and not me, I’m not the one who thought of it. I’m not the one who went there with it. You are. You lose. No amount of deflection can save your sad attempt at a defense.



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by FET-500 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:09 am

NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:06 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false
So the actual intent of the speaker means nothing? Straw man ad infinitum. Well played.
Are you stating that you are unable to make your point in clear language? It appears that this is your concession.
No I’m saying that you are making a straw man argument by ignoring what I meant and applying your own false meaning to it... you are the only one referencing a specific race. This is a reflection on you and not me, I’m not the one who thought of it. I’m not the one who went there with it. You are. You lose. No amount of deflection can save your sad attempt at a defense.
So focusing on what you actually typed vs what you believe you said constitutes a straw man? False meaning? Dude seriously, pick up on some Sowell or perhaps your favorite etymologist/linguist; I'd point you to John McWhorter.

Employing a racial epithet and then claiming that "it's not what I meant", is weak.



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by stopnswop2 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:51 am

I don't give a damn where the term came from.
It's NOT used to only describe a single black mother.
Stop with the race card


Music is my life.

Deleted User 8570

Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:35 am

FET-500 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:09 am
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:06 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false
So the actual intent of the speaker means nothing? Straw man ad infinitum. Well played.
Are you stating that you are unable to make your point in clear language? It appears that this is your concession.
No I’m saying that you are making a straw man argument by ignoring what I meant and applying your own false meaning to it... you are the only one referencing a specific race. This is a reflection on you and not me, I’m not the one who thought of it. I’m not the one who went there with it. You are. You lose. No amount of deflection can save your sad attempt at a defense.
So focusing on what you actually typed vs what you believe you said constitutes a straw man? False meaning? Dude seriously, pick up on some Sowell or perhaps your favorite etymologist/linguist; I'd point you to John McWhorter.

Employing a racial epithet and then claiming that "it's not what I meant", is weak.
Projecting your prejudice onto me and pretending it’s mine is about as weak as you can go. I don’t care what a has been conservative pundit thinks... in today’s Trump-land thoughtful guys like Sowell are out of business... just ask George Will...



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by FET-500 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:39 am

NS8401 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:35 am
FET-500 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:09 am
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:06 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false
So the actual intent of the speaker means nothing? Straw man ad infinitum. Well played.
Are you stating that you are unable to make your point in clear language? It appears that this is your concession.
No I’m saying that you are making a straw man argument by ignoring what I meant and applying your own false meaning to it... you are the only one referencing a specific race. This is a reflection on you and not me, I’m not the one who thought of it. I’m not the one who went there with it. You are. You lose. No amount of deflection can save your sad attempt at a defense.
So focusing on what you actually typed vs what you believe you said constitutes a straw man? False meaning? Dude seriously, pick up on some Sowell or perhaps your favorite etymologist/linguist; I'd point you to John McWhorter.

Employing a racial epithet and then claiming that "it's not what I meant", is weak.
Projecting your prejudice onto me and pretending it’s mine is about as weak as you can go. I don’t care what a has been conservative pundit thinks... in today’s Trump-land thoughtful guys like Sowell are out of business... just ask George Will...
No one has to project anything on you and Sowell's not "out of business". https://books.google.com/books?id=KRU1D ... &q&f=false



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:10 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:39 am
NS8401 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:35 am
FET-500 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:09 am
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:06 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false
So the actual intent of the speaker means nothing? Straw man ad infinitum. Well played.
Are you stating that you are unable to make your point in clear language? It appears that this is your concession.
No I’m saying that you are making a straw man argument by ignoring what I meant and applying your own false meaning to it... you are the only one referencing a specific race. This is a reflection on you and not me, I’m not the one who thought of it. I’m not the one who went there with it. You are. You lose. No amount of deflection can save your sad attempt at a defense.
So focusing on what you actually typed vs what you believe you said constitutes a straw man? False meaning? Dude seriously, pick up on some Sowell or perhaps your favorite etymologist/linguist; I'd point you to John McWhorter.

Employing a racial epithet and then claiming that "it's not what I meant", is weak.
Projecting your prejudice onto me and pretending it’s mine is about as weak as you can go. I don’t care what a has been conservative pundit thinks... in today’s Trump-land thoughtful guys like Sowell are out of business... just ask George Will...
No one has to project anything on you and Sowell's not "out of business". https://books.google.com/books?id=KRU1D ... &q&f=false
You keep doing projections ad infinitum because I said something that offended your delicate sensibilities and you could care less what I actually meant or anything else... apparently you know better than I do what I meant? Apparently because you won’t accept an alternate explanation I must have meant whatever you think and anything else is well nigh impossible?

Sowell is 88... he’s nearly out of business... and he’s not exactly a go to guy in modern conservative thought... Bob Seger and The Rolling Stones still put out albums... not very successful ones but they still put ‘em out. Sowell is the same way... he was a big deal 20 years ago but he’s a bit player today...



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Re: More pigs escaping from the pen

Post by FET-500 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:37 pm

NS8401 wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:10 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:39 am
NS8401 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:35 am
FET-500 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:09 am
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:06 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 am
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:24 pm
I'm curious to know how "baby momma" somehow only applies to... I'm assuming black people...
Jesus man, read some Thomas Sowell?

By the way, excellent use of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Well played.

https://books.google.com/books?id=M2GfO ... ll&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=cgSqA ... ks&f=false
So the actual intent of the speaker means nothing? Straw man ad infinitum. Well played.
Are you stating that you are unable to make your point in clear language? It appears that this is your concession.
No I’m saying that you are making a straw man argument by ignoring what I meant and applying your own false meaning to it... you are the only one referencing a specific race. This is a reflection on you and not me, I’m not the one who thought of it. I’m not the one who went there with it. You are. You lose. No amount of deflection can save your sad attempt at a defense.
So focusing on what you actually typed vs what you believe you said constitutes a straw man? False meaning? Dude seriously, pick up on some Sowell or perhaps your favorite etymologist/linguist; I'd point you to John McWhorter.

Employing a racial epithet and then claiming that "it's not what I meant", is weak.
Projecting your prejudice onto me and pretending it’s mine is about as weak as you can go. I don’t care what a has been conservative pundit thinks... in today’s Trump-land thoughtful guys like Sowell are out of business... just ask George Will...
No one has to project anything on you and Sowell's not "out of business". https://books.google.com/books?id=KRU1D ... &q&f=false
You keep doing projections ad infinitum because I said something that offended your delicate sensibilities and you could care less what I actually meant or anything else... apparently you know better than I do what I meant? Apparently because you won’t accept an alternate explanation I must have meant whatever you think and anything else is well nigh impossible?

Sowell is 88... he’s nearly out of business... and he’s not exactly a go to guy in modern conservative thought... Bob Seger and The Rolling Stones still put out albums... not very successful ones but they still put ‘em out. Sowell is the same way... he was a big deal 20 years ago but he’s a bit player today...
B/T/W, Sowell is still churning out a book a year and shows no real signs of diminished capacity or slowing down in any way. The " go to guys" in modern conservative thought use them as reference. I dunno how Bob Seger entered into this but Bob, who is worth $45 Million, will sell three nights at DTE with zero effort.

Nice strawman but you have to remember, I referenced Sowell not because of his conservative philosophical underpinning but because he's an expert sociologist with a deep understanding of the etymology of our archaic colloquial dialects.

Words have meaning; A is A as Ayn Rand would say. Perhaps you should stick to a more common language?



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