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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:18 am 
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Are you kidding me? Every pre-draft board I can find on google had Ebron listed as a mid first-round pick, as high as #8 overall.

A guy with a chronic case of the "drop-sies" in college? Puh-leeeese.

Are these the same "experts" who thought Brady Quinn was going to go super high in the first round years ago?

The Lions had far more pressing needs at the time. Most (but not all) folks characterized the pick at the time as being anywhere from "questionable" to "stupid."

CIDR (93.9 The River) - quit calling yourself "AAA." You're not. You are a lame, tightly playlisted, predictable Modern AC station.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:58 pm 

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Why are you naive enough to think Seattle is friendly enough to take more knees against us if we start calling timeouts? They would have ran that 17 seconds out -- literally. We never would have had a snowballs chance in hell at getting to the point of a free kick being makeable. You're grasping at straws. That's why nobody came up with it but you.

They had already taken a knee at 0:17. That runs the clock down to 0:16 or 0:15. So its already 2nd down. It is not easy to burn 0:15 seconds of clock in just 2 plays, at least not if you're being conservative, and especially when you've already mentally headed to the locker room. So it would have most likely made it to 4th down with at least a few seconds left. At that point, Seattle has a tough decision to make - try to burn those last few seconds and risk a turnover on downs deep in their own territory with 0:01 second left, or punt. My point is, there was virtually no danger whatsoever in taking those timeouts because Seattle was almost guaranteed to not score, but Detroit at least had a chance at 3 points before the half.

They get to :16, lions call timeout, Seattle runs backwards and sideways burning 7 seconds, does so again getting us down to :02 and then punts running out the clock. Not enough time.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:01 pm 

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Good teams have the luxury of drafting a TE in the first round. The Lions drafted Ebron at #10 when they KNEW they'd completely fucked themselves on the Suh deal by continually kicking the can down the road (on franchise tags and contract restructuring and whatnot and knowing that it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that they couldn't afford to resign him) and Aaron Donald was sitting there. You think he could've helped stop the run last night??? :razz Not to mention the fact that they had just signed their first round TE from 5 years earlier to a contract extension.

It was a completely wasted pick on a guy who is never going to be any better than a mid-pack TE in this league (spin the numbers however you'd like, that's his ceiling).

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:34 am 
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Concerning drafting Ebron, let's not forget that our incoming offensive coordinator that season was Joe Lombardi, longtime successful offensive assistant and quarterbacks coach with the Saints. Ebron was going to be for the Lions what Jimmy Graham was for the Saints -- an H-back of sorts who'd line up anywhere and give defenses fits. The fact that Lombardi and Stafford never jibed was problematic in hindsight.

Also, not often accentuated of late is that the Lions' offense was decimated by injuries, the most severely felt being those to RBs Ameer Abdullah at the season's beginning and Theo Riddick -- the latter being an important receiver out of the backfield. Defenses had absolutely zero respect for our running game. Combine all that with Stafford's finger injury and I think it was quite an achievement to reach the playoffs at all! Remember, we were positioned as the second playoff seed in the NFC as late as three or four weeks ago before Stafford's finger injury, a result of playing mostly mistake-free football against mostly mediocre teams.

I also have to agree that the Lions are getting zero respect from the refs. That veteran receiver Anquan Boldin would receive personal foul and unsportsman-like conduct penalties while Stafford was picked up and dropped like a hay bale without a call was beyond the pale! :evil: Besides, I think there are far too many pass interference calls being assessed - let them play fergodsakes!

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