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Your best ever car radio?

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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:09 am

Are people actually expecting "good sound" from a tuner? The signal is compressed and the top octave is chopped; it cannot sound "good", not ever.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by audiophile » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm

It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.


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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by F-Squared » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:37 pm

audiophile wrote:It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
Definitely a vast improvement over AM. Still not better than Sirius XM though. I mean really. My mom subscribes to it for no practical reason. The reason why you get it is because you either want more kinds of programming, or you want no commercials. She's perfectly fine with commercials on FM, yet she still listens to the same three channels on SXM: Hits 1, Z100, and KIIS. I don't really like her taste in music, first of all, but of course I'd never say it to her face. But she could just use FM, but she still subs to SXM for reasons not even she knows.

Anyway, getting back on topic, I hate SXM's compression. It sounds like a tin-can phone. Just use FM. Unless you're getting it for the great programming.

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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:51 am

audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by F-Squared » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 am

FET-500 wrote:
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
They didn't have cell phones with near-flawless audio in 1933

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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:35 pm

F-Squared wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 am
FET-500 wrote:
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
They didn't have cell phones with near-flawless audio in 1933

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Cellphones and near-flawless what? You're not an engineer I'm going to guess.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:42 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:47 pm
I rent cars all the time, Chrysler has the best radios. Hyundai is near the worst.

VW used to be good.
VW more or less invented the pull-out radio. My sister had a '58 or '59 Beetle with a Blaupunkt that doubled as a portable.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:46 pm

F-Squared wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:37 pm
audiophile wrote:It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
Definitely a vast improvement over AM. Still not better than Sirius XM though. I mean really. My mom subscribes to it for no practical reason. The reason why you get it is because you either want more kinds of programming, or you want no commercials. She's perfectly fine with commercials on FM, yet she still listens to the same three channels on SXM: Hits 1, Z100, and KIIS. I don't really like her taste in music, first of all, but of course I'd never say it to her face. But she could just use FM, but she still subs to SXM for reasons not even she knows.

Anyway, getting back on topic, I hate SXM's compression. It sounds like a tin-can phone. Just use FM. Unless you're getting it for the great programming.

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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by audiophile » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:52 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:51 am
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
Phones often lack bass response, FM tuners themselves do not.


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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by TC Talks » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:42 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:47 pm
I rent cars all the time, Chrysler has the best radios. Hyundai is near the worst.
VW used to be good.
VW more or less invented the pull-out radio. My sister had a '58 or '59 Beetle with a Blaupunkt that doubled as a portable.
A 59 used Sapphire radios as stock, not Blaupunkt. They were a popular aftermath option.


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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by F-Squared » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:49 pm

FET-500 wrote:
F-Squared wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 am
FET-500 wrote:
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
They didn't have cell phones with near-flawless audio in 1933

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Cellphones and near-flawless what? You're not an engineer I'm going to guess.
Yep, I'm not. Thought I shouldn't have said that.

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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:30 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:42 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:47 pm
I rent cars all the time, Chrysler has the best radios. Hyundai is near the worst.
VW used to be good.
VW more or less invented the pull-out radio. My sister had a '58 or '59 Beetle with a Blaupunkt that doubled as a portable.
A 59 used Sapphire radios as stock, not Blaupunkt. They were a popular aftermath option.
Those guys are the VW experts... I kinda hate them and their inability to control camber but the radios were neato. The restos for VW of America were all done at my sister's house.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:35 pm

F-Squared wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:49 pm
FET-500 wrote:
F-Squared wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 am
FET-500 wrote:
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
They didn't have cell phones with near-flawless audio in 1933

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Cellphones and near-flawless what? You're not an engineer I'm going to guess.
Yep, I'm not. Thought I shouldn't have said that.

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The audio transmitted by phones is really truncated; a severely compressed passband. No bass, no treble and no dynamic range.
Telephonic audio is terrible by design.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:42 pm

audiophile wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:52 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:51 am
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
Phones often lack bass response, FM tuners themselves do not.
Phones operate in a passband from 300 to around 3.5khz. There is no bass.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by TC Talks » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:23 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:30 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm
A 59 used Sapphire radios as stock, not Blaupunkt. They were a popular aftermath option.
Those guys are the VW experts... I kinda hate them and their inability to control camber but the radios were neato. The restos for VW of America were all done at my sister's house.
What era radios? Sapphire or Blaupunkt? My buddy maintains the vintage VWoA fleet for them.


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