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Is The Government Making Us Fat?

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Bryce
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Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Bryce » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:52 pm

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If you take a look at the above chart from the CDC, you see the obesity rates in the U.S. (which are among the highest in the world) started a dramatic rise in the late 70's. Coincidentally, 1974 was the first year the Food Stamp Program, now called SNAP, went nationwide.

Could our federal food assistance policy be creating the rise in obesity?


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by NS8401 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:04 pm

Bryce wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:52 pm
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If you take a look at the above chart from the CDC, you see the obesity rates in the U.S. (which are among the highest in the world) started a dramatic rise in the late 70's. Coincidentally, 1974 was the first year the Food Stamp Program, now called SNAP, went nationwide.

Could our federal food assistance policy be creating the rise in obesity?
I doubt it... probably more to do with the explosion in junk food products in that time. And Americans sure love their junk food...



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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by craig11152 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:41 pm

NS8401 wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:04 pm
Bryce wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:52 pm
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If you take a look at the above chart from the CDC, you see the obesity rates in the U.S. (which are among the highest in the world) started a dramatic rise in the late 70's. Coincidentally, 1974 was the first year the Food Stamp Program, now called SNAP, went nationwide.

Could our federal food assistance policy be creating the rise in obesity?
I doubt it... probably more to do with the explosion in junk food products in that time. And Americans sure love their junk food...
I'm inclined to agree with NS8401...if we are right then I guess it's the private sector making his fat.



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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Bryce » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:44 pm

I'm not so sure...

A survey done on food purchases comparing SNAP households to Non SNAP households shows a much higher purchase ratio of food dollars from SNAP households on:

1. Sweetened Beverages
2. Frozen/Prepared Foods
3. High Fat Dairy

And a lower purchase ratio of
1. Fruits


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Bryce » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:33 pm

Then again...

You guys may be right!

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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Turkeytop » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:16 pm

Let em starve. That'll drive down the obesity rates.

Of course, if the tax payers weren't subsidizing WalMart's low wages with food assistance for their employees, maybe the WalMarts of the world would have to pay decent wages and their employees wouldn't have to rely on public assistance.



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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Bryce » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:27 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:16 pm
Let em starve. That'll drive down the obesity rates.
A bunch of recent studies show that being hungry fir extended periods of time is much healthier than being obese.

No one, well at least not me, wants anyone to starve. However, subsidizing poor nutrition choices is downright foolish on many levels,


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Turkeytop » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:05 pm

I see a lot of middle class types waddling up to the all you can stand buffets here in Florida. One of the buffet restaurants near here offers recliner chairs.



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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Bryce » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:47 am

Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:05 pm
I see a lot of middle class types waddling up to the all you can stand buffets here in Florida. One of the buffet restaurants near here offers recliner chairs.
And I get to pay higher insurance rates because of it. Sure would be interesting to see the medications those waddling people are on.


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by In The Bleachers » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:10 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:05 pm
I see a lot of middle class types waddling up to the all you can stand buffets here in Florida. One of the buffet restaurants near here offers recliner chairs.
Ever seen someone just forgo the plates at one of those buffets, and just pile the food right on the tray? I kid you not I seen that.


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by audiophile » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:20 am

Bryce wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:27 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:16 pm
Let em starve. That'll drive down the obesity rates.
A bunch of recent studies show that being hungry fir extended periods of time is much healthier than being obese.

No one, well at least not me, wants anyone to starve. However, subsidizing poor nutrition choices is downright foolish on many levels,
Make it so bridge card can be used for unprocessed fruit, vegetables, and raw meat.


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by craig11152 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:53 am

audiophile wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:20 am
Make it so bridge card can be used for unprocessed fruit, vegetables, and raw meat.
I think that isn't a bad idea in theory but there are some problems. One certainly being that in many inner cities I think there is a lack of grocery stores that carry that sort of stuff.



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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Bryce » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:52 pm

craig11152 wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:53 am
One certainly being that in many inner cities I think there is a lack of grocery stores that carry that sort of stuff.
Fortunately, Detroit doesn't have that problem.

https://www.google.com/search?q=grocery ... 554!4f13.1


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by NS8401 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:32 pm

Bryce wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:52 pm
craig11152 wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:53 am
One certainly being that in many inner cities I think there is a lack of grocery stores that carry that sort of stuff.
Fortunately, Detroit doesn't have that problem.

https://www.google.com/search?q=grocery ... 554!4f13.1
That’s all well and good but none of those places is A-1 cheap either... after availability on this list comes price.... $4 for a box of strawberries vs. $1 for a strawberry shortcake hostess roll? The economics speaks for itself... if they were to eat only healthy food they would run out of money.



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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Bryce » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:00 pm

NS8401 wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:32 pm


That’s all well and good but none of those places is A-1 cheap either... after availability on this list comes price.... $4 for a box of strawberries vs. $1 for a strawberry shortcake hostess roll? The economics speaks for itself... if they were to eat only healthy food they would run out of money.
I call bullshit on that.

Banana's - .50 cents a pound (you get 6 banana's for the price of your Hostess Roll)
Apples - about .65 cents each (even cheaper than a hostess roll)
Carrots - .90 cents a pound
Potatoes - .90 cents a pound.

My entire lunch today (purchased from a Spartan Store) cost me $2.58. It had 30 grams of protein and included fresh fruit. Tasted really good too.


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Turkeytop » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:27 pm

Today's working class lunch.

(Grilled Cheese}

Two slices bread - .20

Margarine - .05

Cheddar cheese - .40

Can Busch Light - 60

Total -$1.25

Healthy?


or


Unhealthy?



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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Bryce » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:58 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:27 pm
Today's working class lunch.

(Grilled Cheese}

Two slices bread - .20

Margarine - .05

Cheddar cheese - .40

Can Busch Light - 60

Total -$1.25

Healthy?


or


Unhealthy?
Depends on the type of bread. Simple carbs from things like white bread isn't a good thing for people that are overweight. Also, ditch the margarine and use grass fed butter or olive oil instead.

Busch Light? Bout the same.asn12.oz water. :razz


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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by Turkeytop » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:10 pm

Rye bread and olive oil Margarine.



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Re: Is The Government Making Us Fat?

Post by tapeisrolling » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:37 pm

The pattern for becoming the heavier side of life can be set when young and going to school. We have heard for years about eating 'right' but when someone.. say FLOTUS pushes it the blow-back was at time was merciless by some sides. Remember catsup as a vegetable in school lunches?
My oldest lives in the grocery desert of Detroit. She would point out that the nearest store has 30 flavors of chips but not a real fruit or vegetable in sight. This may help set the young brain to crave the non-healthy racks over the other when it is available.




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