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Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:33 pm
by Bryce
24/7 Wall St. reviewed the percentage change in the population of 382 U.S. metro areas between 2010 and 2017 to identify the fastest shrinking American cities. Over that period, 25 metro areas reported population declines of between 3 percent and 10 percent.

22. Bay City, MI
• 2010-2017 population change: -3.2 percent (from 107,676 to 104,239)
• 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: -2,644
• Largest 12 month change: -781 (2014-2015)
• Median household income: $44,756

13. Saginaw, MI
• 2010-2017 population change: -4.0 percent (from 199,851 to 191,934)
• 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: -9,783
• Largest 12 month change: -1,958 (2014-2015)
• Median household income: $45,849

11. Flint, MI
• 2010-2017 population change: -4.1 percent (from 424,938 to 407,385)
• 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: -22,658
• Largest 12 month change: -3,847 (2011-2012)
• Median household income: $43,955

I'm kind of surprised that the median income is higher in Bay City than it is in Flint.

It could be worse...

1. Pine Bluff, AR
• 2010-2017 population change: -9.1 percent (from 100,093 to 90,963)
• 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: -10,001
• Largest 12 month change: -1,651 (2012-2013)
• Median household income: $37,076

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:46 pm
by Deleted User 14935
Detroit is also shrinking, I wonder where they stand.

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:03 pm
by Y M Ionhere
Whats the Bay City "metro area"? The city itself has thirty-something thousand people and neighboring Essexville less than 10k. From there its rural. Where are they coming up with 107k?

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:35 pm
by Bryce
Y M Ionhere wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:03 pm
Whats the Bay City "metro area"? The city itself has thirty-something thousand people and neighboring Essexville less than 10k. From there its rural. Where are they coming up with 107k?
Bay County has 104,000. Me thinks they used that number.

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:38 pm
by TC Talks
Pine Bluff is fentanyl central. That's how it is in the #racist #Trump south.

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:52 pm
by Bryce
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:38 pm
Pine Bluff is fentanyl central. That's how it is in the #racist #Trump south.
And the place with the worst drug problem in the nation is the District of Columbia. That's how it is in a Democrat stronghold. Hell, they even had a crack head for mayor once.

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:58 pm
by Deleted User 8570
Bryce wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:33 pm
24/7 Wall St. reviewed the percentage change in the population of 382 U.S. metro areas between 2010 and 2017 to identify the fastest shrinking American cities. Over that period, 25 metro areas reported population declines of between 3 percent and 10 percent.

22. Bay City, MI
• 2010-2017 population change: -3.2 percent (from 107,676 to 104,239)
• 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: -2,644
• Largest 12 month change: -781 (2014-2015)
• Median household income: $44,756

13. Saginaw, MI
• 2010-2017 population change: -4.0 percent (from 199,851 to 191,934)
• 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: -9,783
• Largest 12 month change: -1,958 (2014-2015)
• Median household income: $45,849

11. Flint, MI
• 2010-2017 population change: -4.1 percent (from 424,938 to 407,385)
• 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: -22,658
• Largest 12 month change: -3,847 (2011-2012)
• Median household income: $43,955

I'm kind of surprised that the median income is higher in Bay City than it is in Flint.

It could be worse...

1. Pine Bluff, AR
• 2010-2017 population change: -9.1 percent (from 100,093 to 90,963)
• 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: -10,001
• Largest 12 month change: -1,651 (2012-2013)
• Median household income: $37,076
I imagine a loss of industry was a H*** factor in this...

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:23 am
by audiophile
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:38 pm
Pine Bluff is fentanyl central. That's how it is in the #racist #Trump south.
Obviously written by someone that never has been there. Pine Bluff is only 20% white.

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:55 am
by TC Shuts Up
Where are they moving? I know that Tyrone Township in Livingston County is where a lot of affluent Flintoids are moving. Clarkston is another destination. Look at where they are moving. For Genesee County, Oakland County is probably where the most are moving, the statistical mode.

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:19 am
by Deleted User 4520
I've always heard the population of the Grand Rapids and surrounding area has been growing for a long time.

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:11 pm
by TC Talks
audiophile wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:23 am
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:38 pm
Pine Bluff is fentanyl central. That's how it is in the #racist #Trump south.
Obviously written by someone that never has been there. Pine Bluff is only 20% white.
Fentanyl addiction is at a crisis level, Arkansas has done relatively nothing to address this epidemic. If you look at the Deep South you will discover doing nothing is a pretty consistent reaction. Race has little to do with addiction.

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:02 pm
by Bryce
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:11 pm
audiophile wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:23 am
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:38 pm
Pine Bluff is fentanyl central. That's how it is in the #racist #Trump south.
Obviously written by someone that never has been there. Pine Bluff is only 20% white.
Fentanyl addiction is at a crisis level, Arkansas has done relatively nothing to address this epidemic. If you look at the Deep South you will discover doing nothing is a pretty consistent reaction. Race has little to do with addiction.
So black folks are racist Trump voters?

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:24 pm
by TC Talks
Are you suggesting that Trump isn't stoking racism? He wouldn't have gotten elected without it. Parts of Arkansas are very much with his white supremacist agenda.

Why are white supremacists so happy to celebrate him?

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-ca ... azi-salute

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:09 pm
by audiophile
By request for TC Talks:


Keep going TCT! :lol

Re: Getting The Hell Out Of Saginaw, Bay City And Flint

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:40 pm
by Bryce
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:24 pm
Are you suggesting that Trump isn't stoking racism? He wouldn't have gotten elected without it. Parts of Arkansas are very much with his white supremacist agenda.

Why are white supremacists so happy to celebrate him?

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-ca ... azi-salute
Sigh...

There is not ONE THING you can point to that shows any racism or anti semitic attitude on the part of T Rump.

The same cannot be said of the new leftists.

You are the one that pointed out a town that is 80 percent black and said it was full of fentanyl using, racist Trump voters.