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Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:11 am

I used this document as the backbone for most of my state budgetary impact assumptions:
https://www.house.mi.gov/hfa/PDF/Briefi ... y18-19.pdf



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by Bryce » Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:03 pm

Wow...

Excellent.

Run MW, Run.


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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:22 pm

Thank you, sir! :)

Rest assured - I won't be running for office anytime soon. That said, I do intend to write my state representative, state senator, house leadership and senate leadership to share my ideas.

What I think will ultimately happen, legislatively, is this:
- House and Senate leadership will make the error of addressing road funding prior to addressing auto insurance reform.
- The Republicans will probably propose a road funding plan that consists of two parts: (i) a $0.10 - $0.15 per gallon fuel tax increase and/or an increase in vehicle registration fees, and (ii) additional funding tied to voters approving an increase in the general sales tax.
- Because households will not yet have received the benefit of auto insurance rate relief, they will be tax weary and likely vote down any ballot proposal seeking to increase the sales tax.

I know Speaker of the House, Lee Chatfield, wants all taxes collected at the pump to go toward roads. Right now, in the current 2018/2019 budget year, $356 million of general fund revenue goes toward roads.

Under the November 2015 law, I believe the mandatory number increases to $800 million by 2021. If fuel prices average $3.00 per gallon, that $800 million will be roughly equal to 80% of the general sales tax revenue collected at the pump (i.e. 80% of $1.0 billion). So, Chatfield essentially wants to increase the $356 million number to $1.0 billion, which would leave a ~$654 million hole in the general fund. I simply don't see how slashing general fund spending by $654 million is viable. I think there is where (ii) from the previous paragraph comes into play.



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by MWmetalhead » Thu May 09, 2019 7:13 pm

Whitmer is such a piece of shit:
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... ystem.html

(And for those who have short memories or are newbies to the Buzzboard - I hated Snyder, too.)



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by TC Talks » Thu May 09, 2019 9:53 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 7:13 pm
Whitmer is such a piece of shit:
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... ystem.html
(And for those who have short memories or are newbies to the Buzzboard - I hated Snyder, too.)
Being the minority leader of the Senate, ask yourself "What does she know that I don't know." Let's start with: She represents a wider breadth of citizens than you. So she's not a piece of shit, she is simply ensuring no one get fucked in this deal.


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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by Matt » Fri May 10, 2019 8:45 am

TC Talks wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 9:53 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 7:13 pm
Whitmer is such a piece of shit:
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... ystem.html
(And for those who have short memories or are newbies to the Buzzboard - I hated Snyder, too.)
Being the minority leader of the Senate, ask yourself "What does she know that I don't know." Let's start with: She represents a wider breadth of citizens than you. So she's not a piece of shit, she is simply ensuring no one get fucked in this deal.
This is possibly the dumbest comment ever posted. She is a partisan hack piece of shit. She isn't looking out for anyone.


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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by bmw » Fri May 10, 2019 10:30 am

Funny how Whitmer ran and campaigned as a moderate who could work with republicans to get things done, and now that she's in office she won't even support a bill with bi-partisan support.

It is gonna be a long 6 years.



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by ZenithCKLW » Fri May 10, 2019 10:42 am

The bill was a bipartisan turd. Get both parties back to work to come up with something better. Moving on.



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by TC Talks » Fri May 10, 2019 11:45 am

bmw wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 10:30 am
Funny how Whitmer ran and campaigned as a moderate who could work with republicans to get things done, and now that she's in office she won't even support a bill with bi-partisan support.

It is gonna be a long 6 years.
Even more funny is that the Republicans didn't get the message that the citizens of Michigan are not happy with ineffective governing. The Republicans dominated the Senate, the House and the Governor's office and look how screwed up the state is right now. I understand that doesn't seem to bother someone like Matt, because he's a lemming that can only parrot the party line. But I ask you, where is your scrutiny to the party that accomplished nothing in all of the time they had control?


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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by bmw » Fri May 10, 2019 12:19 pm

I think I've been quite clear that I was no fan of Snyder. Not sure how that is relevant to Whitmer governing very differently than how she campaigned.



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by Matt » Fri May 10, 2019 12:36 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 11:45 am
bmw wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 10:30 am
Funny how Whitmer ran and campaigned as a moderate who could work with republicans to get things done, and now that she's in office she won't even support a bill with bi-partisan support.

It is gonna be a long 6 years.
Even more funny is that the Republicans didn't get the message that the citizens of Michigan are not happy with ineffective governing. The Republicans dominated the Senate, the House and the Governor's office and look how screwed up the state is right now. I understand that doesn't seem to bother someone like Matt, because he's a lemming that can only parrot the party line. But I ask you, where is your scrutiny to the party that accomplished nothing in all of the time they had control?
This cheap shot is the equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?" It's pathetic and I used to think that would be beneath you. Know I'm not so sure you're that much different than a former poster who lost his shit on here years ago. You suggested that the asshole governor that we have knows more than us (specifically MW in your comment) because she represents more people. Well, Donald Trump represents 327M Americans, so are you advocating that he knows even better than the idiot in Lansing? Just today, Whitmer line item vetoed funding for the wrongfully imprisoned, presumably so there can be a future referendum to NOT compensate the wrongfully imprisoned.


What's more pathetic: harassing an old man who is paying to do a radio show or supporting a grifter like Trump?

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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by Deleted User 24 » Fri May 10, 2019 12:40 pm

Matt would find a way to discredit a Democrat who cured cancer. It's just his mindset.



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by bmw » Fri May 10, 2019 1:27 pm

Vic Doucette wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 12:40 pm
Matt would find a way to discredit a Democrat who cured cancer. It's just his mindset.
So what is it exactly that Whitmer deserves credit for?



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by ZenithCKLW » Fri May 10, 2019 1:44 pm

To start, I think she deserves credit for turning down that turd of a bill this week they called auto insurance reform. That can't really help anybody except MAYBE save a few bucks at the end of the year (that wasn't guaranteed in this bill, it just guaranteed coverage was removed). Good luck if anyone is ever in a serious accident requiring lifelong care.



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Re: Whitmer ultimatum: No budget signature without 'real' road funding

Post by Matt » Fri May 10, 2019 2:52 pm

Vic Doucette wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 12:40 pm
Matt would find a way to discredit a Democrat who cured cancer. It's just his mindset.
If you don't have me blocked, please articulate my view on gay marriage and tell me which party it more aligns with.


What's more pathetic: harassing an old man who is paying to do a radio show or supporting a grifter like Trump?

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